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 Horse bucking issue. Opinions? RL 350 views  •   1627 days ago
Blazin Barrel Ranch     •  2,765 career posts  
In January of 2017 my horse started doing little crow hops at the canter, and a year later we still can't figure out the problem! It's always in the left lead mostly, with an occasional crop hop in the right lead, and sometimes he switches leads in the back, probably from discomfort I would assume. He's an 11 year old paint gelding that is a cutter and reiner mostly. Here's what I've done so far:

Vet #1
September 2016- hocks injected and chiropractic adjustment. Tested slightly positive in right stifle and left front leg.

January 2017- chiropractic adjustment.


Vet #2
March 2017- SI injections. Stifles palpated normal.

April 2017- hormone injections thinking it was attitude.


Vet #3
June 2017- Full back x-rays, and all looked fairly normal. Stifles and hocks looked normal. Vet suggested doing stretches before riding to see if it helped.

November 2017- Full back injections. Vet still thought back was the problem.


So now after all of this, he's still not better. In fact he actually bucked me off the other day. He just seems really uncomfortable at the canter. Trotting is fine most of the time.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated!! :)
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By the way, I'm still thinking stifles. Gut feeling I guess, but I'm not sure.
 
Blazin Barrel Ranch     •  2,766 career posts 1627 days ago
 
Have you tried warm wraps for it'S legs if you had alot of cold weather that might help.

If it's back issues you could get a warm heater blanket to see if the cold is making it worse ?.
 
Elmo Ink The Defenders    online  •  20,981 career posts 1627 days ago
 
Sounds like stifles or some sort of leg joint problem.
 
Elmo Ink The Defenders    online  •  20,982 career posts 1627 days ago
 
Elmo- I live in Texas, so it doesn't get too cold. Plus he's been doing it even when it's in the 90's. It's been a year round thing for a year now.
 
Blazin Barrel Ranch     •  2,767 career posts 1627 days ago
 
Does he do it at a lounge without any tack?
 
Ordona Province     •  2,261 career posts 1627 days ago
 
Ordona- I honestly haven't looked at that yet, but I plan to tomorrow. What are your thoughts pertaining to that?
 
Blazin Barrel Ranch     •  2,768 career posts 1627 days ago
 
have you considered that possibly your farrier is trimming too close? There is a group on Facebook called Horse Vet Corner where you can post all of this including the x-ray images and they may think of things that could be going on that your vet(s) may not have thought of.
 
ShadowHawk Stables    •  26 career posts 1627 days ago
 
ShadowHawk- I haven't considered that, but I wouldn't assume that he is. Thanks for the heads up on the Facebook page!
 
Blazin Barrel Ranch     •  2,769 career posts 1627 days ago
 
No problem! :) It's possible your farrier might be trimming close and not realizing it. Either way, I hope you figure out the problem soon. Your horse sounds like a sweetheart and is just trying to tell you something is wrong. ;)
 
ShadowHawk Stables    •  27 career posts 1627 days ago
 
No problem! :) It's possible your farrier might be trimming close and not realizing it. Either way, I hope you figure out the problem soon. Your horse sounds like a sweetheart and is just trying to tell you something is wrong. ;)
 
ShadowHawk Stables    •  28 career posts 1627 days ago
 
Sometimes the way your saddle fits your horse can cause them to feel discomfort, especially at certain gaits. Or it could be something about weight on him. Like maybe something is weird about the distribution or he feels unbalanced. Lounging him without tack and seeing if he still bucks might be a good way to see what's causing his reaction.
 
Ordona Province     •  2,262 career posts 1627 days ago
 
Ordona- Gotcha, thanks! He has also done this while riding bareback and in different saddles though, which kind of confuses me.
 
Blazin Barrel Ranch     •  2,770 career posts 1627 days ago
 
That's definitely confusing. It still might help just in case you can sort of see where it's coming from. I hope you're able to figure it out, though!
 
Ordona Province     •  2,263 career posts 1627 days ago
 
Check the halter and saddle. They may be to tight .
Check the bottom of the hooves ? Make sure there no cuts etc a horse with a painful score could become aggressive .
 
Elmo Ink The Defenders    online  •  20,983 career posts 1626 days ago
 
I would look for a osteopath. Someone soft tissue. And if it is stifles, I would start to work on strengthening them. Injections work... just they also start to not work as well the longer you use them. You are putting holes in the bursa that holds synovial fluid. Plus as people we are not allowed to get more than two in one joint in our life (at least in Canada)


I am going with stifle and possibly shoulders. That's my gut feeling as an equine body worker.

What does your horse look like? Muscle wise. Could you post some 'conformation shots I could give you a much better reading
 
The Quest     •  28,059 career posts 1626 days ago
 
going down my check list, all those things you've checked are right on, the next thing I might guess would be ulcers, the motion of the canter sloshes the stomach acids so can upset an ulcer during the gait and can make them reluctant to canter or bucky. We do have a horse with stifle weakness, he had injections years ago and we started him on a strict regime of cavaletti/ground poles. he does at least 5 in a row 4 times a week (usually more) and his strength improved so much he hasnt needed another round of injections in 8yrs. we also do as much hill work as we can, walking and trotting up low grade inclines

how big is your riding ring? another horse we had would swap behind often at the canter (and buck sometimes) she did have the rounds of injections as your horse did, and working on a larger circle helped her build strength and confidence and she keeps the lead much better now
 
Turn Contest    •  227 career posts 1626 days ago
 
I'm not much help but If you'd like some ideas or theories from other vets, or things to ask your current vet, Horse Vet Corner on facebook might be of some help. Only verified vets are allowed to respond to posts, and they can be quite helpful :) Best of luck
 
Evergreen Creek Quarters      •  7,381 career posts 1626 days ago
 
Elmo- I plan on getting my saddle checked out for sure.

Quest- I couldn't get any conformation shots today, but I can try to get some another day.

Turn- He does the bucking going straight, big circles, large circles, anything. I've thought about ulcers as well.

Evergreen- ShadowHawk recommended that facebook page as well. Thanks!!

On an updated note, lunged today with tack, without tack, and rode him both directions at walk, trot, and canter.....looked a little uncomfortable, but no bucking at all.
 
Blazin Barrel Ranch     •  2,771 career posts 1626 days ago
 
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