Color Breed Confusion Resolved
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Have you ever been confused about the difference between breeds and color breeds? I know I have defiantly have. Hopefully after reading this article you will understand color breeds a little better.
First things first, the most popular color breeds are paint, appaloosa, buckskin, pinto and palomino. By definition a color breed is a term that refers to horses that are registered based primarily on their coat color, regardless of the horse's actual breed or breed type. In a way that means you can’t have just a Paint Palomino cross. You may have a paint quarter horse crossed with a palomino quarter horse (which makes it still a quarter horse). Or any breed of horse that has the paint coloring and correct conformation crossed with any horse that is a palomino with correct coloring and conformation.
Palomino:
The PHBA (Palomino Horse Breeders Association) excepts any horse with the correct palomino coloring from all of these breed registries. Regardless of breeding and confirmation they will still be accepted.
American Quarter Horse Association (AQHA)
American Paint Horse Association (APHA)
Appaloosa Horse Club (ApHC)
American Saddlebred Horse Association (ASH A)
American Morgan Horse Association (AMHA)
American Holsteiner Horse Association (AHHA)
Arabian Horse Association (AHA)Arabian Horse Registry (AHR)
International Arabian Horse Association (IAHA)
International Morab Registry (IMR)
Jockey Club (JC)
Mountain Pleasure Horse Association (MPHA)
Missouri Fox Trotting Horse Breed Association (MFTHBA
Pinto Horse Association of America (PtHA) Horse Division Only, both sire and dam must be currently registered with a breed association recognized by PHBA.
Rocky Mountain Horse Association (RMHA)
Tennessee Walking Horse Breeders and Exhibitors’ Association (TWHBEA).
United Quarab Registry (UQR)
Paint:
For a horse to be accepted in to the APHA (American Paint Horse Association) its sire and dam must be registered with the American Paint Horse Association, the American Quarter Horse Association, or the Jockey Club (Thoroughbreds). At least one parent must be a registered American Paint Horse. To be eligible for the Regular Registry, the horse must also exhibit a minimum amount of white hair over unpigmented (pink) skin.
Pinto:
Must have 4 square inches of united white on the qualifying zone and underlying pink skin. The requirement is changed with the size of the equine requiring only 3 square inches for ponies and 2 square inches for miniatures. The equines that do not meet the color condition, but have at least two or more Pinto characteristics (blue eyes leg white above the knee or hock white or multi-colored hooves collective white in the eligible zones, but not enough to qualify for color pink skin) are registered Breeding Stock.
Pintos are classified into four groups:
Stock - Shows Quarter Horse breeding and confirmation.
Hunter- Shows Thoroughbred or approved European Warmblood breeding and confirmation.
Pleasure - Shows Arabian, Morgan, or Andalusian breeding and confirmation.
Saddle - Shows Saddlebred, Tennessee Walker, or Hackney breeding and confirmation.
Appaloosa:
Appaloosa coat patterns vary. Most will be white over the loin and hips with dark round or egg shaped spots which vary in size from tiny specks to as much as four inches in diameter. Many Appaloosas carry the spotting all over the body, but it is usually dominant over the hips and loins. Others will show white over the body or will have white spots on a dark background.
Most POAs (Pony’s Of America) have appaloosa patterning, but that doesn’t make them appaloosas. It just means they have the correct coloring and COULD be registered with the AAA (American Appaloosa Association) IF they showed the correct confirmation. Same with Quarter Horses and any other breed showing the appaloosa coloring.
Color breeds are not BREEDS! Any Paint, Pinto, Palomino, or Appaloosa is also a non color breed. Just like there are sorrels, chestnuts, blacks, grays and whites, there are paints, pintos, palominos and appaloosas. They just have their own associations and registries.
I hope that through this article that you have come to understand more about color breeds. I know I have learned a lot through my research in this topic. |
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The Love Horses
I have to say, I disagree. Paints, Paliminos, and Appaloosas are their own different breed.
But, you are correct about the others(:
I have to say, I disagree. Paints, Paliminos, and Appaloosas are their own different breed.
But, you are correct about the others(:
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Aug 11, 2010
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alliS Ranch
palominos are a color, not a breed.
palominos are a color, not a breed.
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Aug 11, 2010
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klb111
i agree, palominos are not a breed, they're a color!
i agree, palominos are not a breed, they're a color!
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Aug 11, 2010
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All That Jazz
Palominos are a breed AND a color.. and The Love Horses, i agree with you! Pintos aren't a breed, but Paints are.
Palominos are a breed AND a color.. and The Love Horses, i agree with you! Pintos aren't a breed, but Paints are.
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Aug 11, 2010
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Aug 12, 2010
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halfbrokehorses
i think palominos are only considered a breed in the US. where i live theyre considered a colour. my palys supposedly an australian stock horse x
i think palominos are only considered a breed in the US. where i live theyre considered a colour. my palys supposedly an australian stock horse x
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Aug 12, 2010
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tammy sue v
No because I have a registered quarter horse that is a paint. It is double registered though, both as a quarter horse and as a paint.
aqha and apha look it up
No because I have a registered quarter horse that is a paint. It is double registered though, both as a quarter horse and as a paint.
aqha and apha look it up
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Aug 12, 2010
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SyrobeLover
Color breeds are breeds I would know I own a paint and an appaloosa.
Also color breeds don't necessarily have to be marked, my paint horse is a solid color.
As for the palomino debate my appaloosa is mixed with a palomino horse. It is a breed and color.
Color breeds are breeds I would know I own a paint and an appaloosa.
Also color breeds don't necessarily have to be marked, my paint horse is a solid color.
As for the palomino debate my appaloosa is mixed with a palomino horse. It is a breed and color.
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Aug 12, 2010
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ImaCoolCowgirl
A color breed is a term that refers to horses that are registered based primarily on their coat color, regardless of the horse's actual breed or breed type.
Say a Bay Quarter horse Mare bred to a Quarter horse stallion with the paint gene in him foaled a paint foal....does that make him a paint or a quarter horse? He is BOTH!! HE is a Quarter Horse that could be registered in the APHA.
Also do you think that they would let this be posted if it was false??
A color breed is a term that refers to horses that are registered based primarily on their coat color, regardless of the horse's actual breed or breed type.
Say a Bay Quarter horse Mare bred to a Quarter horse stallion with the paint gene in him foaled a paint foal....does that make him a paint or a quarter horse? He is BOTH!! HE is a Quarter Horse that could be registered in the APHA.
Also do you think that they would let this be posted if it was false??
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Aug 12, 2010
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ImaCoolCowgirl
Exactly HalfBroke- You have a Palomino that is an austrailian Stock Horse.....Just like There are Palomino colored quarter horses
Exactly HalfBroke- You have a Palomino that is an austrailian Stock Horse.....Just like There are Palomino colored quarter horses
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Aug 12, 2010
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SnowenSugar
I'd have to say that Paint's and Appaloosa's are a breed, not a color breed, because if you ended up with a American Saddlebred that has Paint coloring it wouldn't be able to be registered as a Paint because it doesn't have the breeding of a Paint, QH, or TB. It would, however be able to be registered as a Pinto because pinto is a color breed.
Paints don't always have to be colored as a Paint. As long as they have Paint breeding they are qualified to be registered as a solid bred Paint.
With Quarter Horses the same is not true. Solid bred Paints can often be registered AQHA, but if an AQHA bred horse is born with Paint coloring it would be allowed to be registered as APHA but not AQHA because AQHA doesn't accept paint coloring as a color.
I'd have to say that Paint's and Appaloosa's are a breed, not a color breed, because if you ended up with a American Saddlebred that has Paint coloring it wouldn't be able to be registered as a Paint because it doesn't have the breeding of a Paint, QH, or TB. It would, however be able to be registered as a Pinto because pinto is a color breed.
Paints don't always have to be colored as a Paint. As long as they have Paint breeding they are qualified to be registered as a solid bred Paint.
With Quarter Horses the same is not true. Solid bred Paints can often be registered AQHA, but if an AQHA bred horse is born with Paint coloring it would be allowed to be registered as APHA but not AQHA because AQHA doesn't accept paint coloring as a color.
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Aug 12, 2010
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ladybell
- Paint is a breed and not just a registry because it only accepts horses of specific ancestory. To have a registered Paint you must have either both parents registered Paints, or one a registered Paint and the other a registered AQHA or Thoroughbred. Any foals from this breeding are registered Paints, whether they have enough white to be pinto colored, or not.
Palomino (and Pinto, for that matter) are not registries but associations because they accept horses of multiple different bloodlines as long as they meet the color specifications. You can have Arab palominos, Saddlebreds, AQHA, Paint, etc. Color associations such as these are obviously not registries as the horses come from very varied bloodlines. In Pinto your horse does not even have to have two registered parents, all you require is one parent to be registered in a light horse breed, and then enough white to qualify.
The line between AQHA and APHA are a bit confusing now. To be in the "regular" Paint registry all you need
- Paint is a breed and not just a registry because it only accepts horses of specific ancestory. To have a registered Paint you must have either both parents registered Paints, or one a registered Paint and the other a registered AQHA or Thoroughbred. Any foals from this breeding are registered Paints, whether they have enough white to be pinto colored, or not.
Palomino (and Pinto, for that matter) are not registries but associations because they accept horses of multiple different bloodlines as long as they meet the color specifications. You can have Arab palominos, Saddlebreds, AQHA, Paint, etc. Color associations such as these are obviously not registries as the horses come from very varied bloodlines. In Pinto your horse does not even have to have two registered parents, all you require is one parent to be registered in a light horse breed, and then enough white to qualify.
The line between AQHA and APHA are a bit confusing now. To be in the "regular" Paint registry all you need is 2 inches of white in certain areas, so there are many Paints out there in the regular registry that don't look that different from Quarter horses. And the Solid Paint breds don't have enough white to qualify for the regular registry - the only disadvantage of this is - you can't show at the breed level in the same classes as the colored horses, and therefore the solid horses sell for less money. Now that AQHA has lifted its color requirements, there are purebred, registered Quarter horses out there with tons and tons of white who look exactly like a Paint.
Palomino is not a breed it is a color,
The Appaloosa is a horse breed known for its preferred leopard-spotted coat pattern and other distinctive physical characteristics. While there is evidence of leopard-spotted horses dating back to the Paleolithic era in Europe, the Nez Perce people of the American Pacific Northwest developed the American breed. They were once referred to by white settlers as the "Palouse horse," possibly after the Palouse River, which ran through the heart of Nez Perce country. Gradually, the name evolved into "Appaloosa." The Nez Perce lost most of their horses following the Nez Perce War in 1877 and the breed fell into decline for several decades. However, a small number of dedicated breeders kept the Appaloosa alive for several decades until a registry was formed in 1938. Today the Appaloosa is one of the most popular breeds in the United States, and it was named the official state horse of Idaho in 1975.
The Appaloosa is best known as a stock horse used in a number of western riding disciplines, but is also a versatile breed with representatives seen in many other types of equestrian activity, as well as in many movies. The color pattern of the Appaloosa is of great interest to those who study equine coat color genetics, as both the coat pattern and several other physical characteristics are linked to the "Lp" or "leopard" gene or gene complex, but the precise inheritance mechanism is not fully understood. The Appaloosa has influenced many other horse breeds, including several gaited horse breeds.
A Pinto horse has a coat color that consists of large patches of white and any other color. The distinction between "pinto" and "solid" can be tenuous, as so-called "solid" horses frequently have areas of white hair. Various cultures throughout history appear to have selectively bred for pinto patterns.
Many breeds of horse carry pinto patterns. Pinto coloring, known simply as "coloured" in nations using British English, is most popular in the United States. While pinto colored horses are not a "breed," several competing color breed registries have formed to encourage the breeding of pinto-colored horses.
Pinto patterns are visually and genetically distinct from the leopard complex spotting patterns characteristic of horses such as the Appaloosa. Breeders who select for color are often careful not to cross the two patterns, and registries that include spotting color preferences often will refuse registration to horses who exhibit characteristics of the "wrong" pattern.
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Aug 12, 2010
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ladybell
- Paint is a breed and not just a registry because it only accepts horses of specific ancestory. To have a registered Paint you must have either both parents registered Paints, or one a registered Paint and the other a registered AQHA or Thoroughbred. Any foals from this breeding are registered Paints, whether they have enough white to be pinto colored, or not.
Palomino (and Pinto, for that matter) are not registries but associations because they accept horses of multiple different bloodlines as long as they meet the color specifications. You can have Arab palominos, Saddlebreds, AQHA, Paint, etc. Color associations such as these are obviously not registries as the horses come from very varied bloodlines. In Pinto your horse does not even have to have two registered parents, all you require is one parent to be registered in a light horse breed, and then enough white to qualify.
The line between AQHA and APHA are a bit confusing now. To be in the "regular" Paint registry all you need
- Paint is a breed and not just a registry because it only accepts horses of specific ancestory. To have a registered Paint you must have either both parents registered Paints, or one a registered Paint and the other a registered AQHA or Thoroughbred. Any foals from this breeding are registered Paints, whether they have enough white to be pinto colored, or not.
Palomino (and Pinto, for that matter) are not registries but associations because they accept horses of multiple different bloodlines as long as they meet the color specifications. You can have Arab palominos, Saddlebreds, AQHA, Paint, etc. Color associations such as these are obviously not registries as the horses come from very varied bloodlines. In Pinto your horse does not even have to have two registered parents, all you require is one parent to be registered in a light horse breed, and then enough white to qualify.
The line between AQHA and APHA are a bit confusing now. To be in the "regular" Paint registry all you need is 2 inches of white in certain areas, so there are many Paints out there in the regular registry that don't look that different from Quarter horses. And the Solid Paint breds don't have enough white to qualify for the regular registry - the only disadvantage of this is - you can't show at the breed level in the same classes as the colored horses, and therefore the solid horses sell for less money. Now that AQHA has lifted its color requirements, there are purebred, registered Quarter horses out there with tons and tons of white who look exactly like a Paint.
Palomino is not a breed it is a color,
The Appaloosa is a horse breed known for its preferred leopard-spotted coat pattern and other distinctive physical characteristics. While there is evidence of leopard-spotted horses dating back to the Paleolithic era in Europe, the Nez Perce people of the American Pacific Northwest developed the American breed. They were once referred to by white settlers as the "Palouse horse," possibly after the Palouse River, which ran through the heart of Nez Perce country. Gradually, the name evolved into "Appaloosa." The Nez Perce lost most of their horses following the Nez Perce War in 1877 and the breed fell into decline for several decades. However, a small number of dedicated breeders kept the Appaloosa alive for several decades until a registry was formed in 1938. Today the Appaloosa is one of the most popular breeds in the United States, and it was named the official state horse of Idaho in 1975.
The Appaloosa is best known as a stock horse used in a number of western riding disciplines, but is also a versatile breed with representatives seen in many other types of equestrian activity, as well as in many movies. The color pattern of the Appaloosa is of great interest to those who study equine coat color genetics, as both the coat pattern and several other physical characteristics are linked to the "Lp" or "leopard" gene or gene complex, but the precise inheritance mechanism is not fully understood. The Appaloosa has influenced many other horse breeds, including several gaited horse breeds.
A Pinto horse has a coat color that consists of large patches of white and any other color. The distinction between "pinto" and "solid" can be tenuous, as so-called "solid" horses frequently have areas of white hair. Various cultures throughout history appear to have selectively bred for pinto patterns.
Many breeds of horse carry pinto patterns. Pinto coloring, known simply as "coloured" in nations using British English, is most popular in the United States. While pinto colored horses are not a "breed," several competing color breed registries have formed to encourage the breeding of pinto-colored horses.
Pinto patterns are visually and genetically distinct from the leopard complex spotting patterns characteristic of horses such as the Appaloosa. Breeders who select for color are often careful not to cross the two patterns, and registries that include spotting color preferences often will refuse registration to horses who exhibit characteristics of the "wrong" pattern.
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Aug 12, 2010
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alliS Ranch
Palominos can be registered in a palomino color registry. Seeing as how you can breed 2 palominos and only have a chance of getting a palomino, it is NOT guaranteed, it is a coloring, NOT a true breed.
Palominos can be registered in a palomino color registry. Seeing as how you can breed 2 palominos and only have a chance of getting a palomino, it is NOT guaranteed, it is a coloring, NOT a true breed.
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Aug 12, 2010
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Holli
OMG! It's Frosty! He is my BEST FRIEND! Lol, but sorry. I have to say that the Appaloosa is recognized as a color breed. :/
OMG! It's Frosty! He is my BEST FRIEND! Lol, but sorry. I have to say that the Appaloosa is recognized as a color breed. :/
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Aug 12, 2010
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ImaCoolCowgirl
Yes Holli it is Frosty..it was the only pic of an Appy I had..tried to use one of Peachy for a paint...
Yes Holli it is Frosty..it was the only pic of an Appy I had..tried to use one of Peachy for a paint...
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Aug 12, 2010
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SyrobeLover
I believe you are missing the point here, these breeds aren't registered due to the fact that they are colored/marked/etc... they are registered because of their genes it's how they are bred, whats on the inside not on the outside you would say.
Appaloosas have other identifying features, such as striped hooves, mottled skin, the white ring in their eyes, the coat doesn't make it an appaloosa.
My paint horse is registered with the paint horse association under the name Red Mans Rainbow and his only marking is a white star. He doesn't have to be extravagantly marked to be a paint, it's his genealogy that makes him a paint.
I don't want to come off as rude but make sure you study the topic.
I believe you are missing the point here, these breeds aren't registered due to the fact that they are colored/marked/etc... they are registered because of their genes it's how they are bred, whats on the inside not on the outside you would say.
Appaloosas have other identifying features, such as striped hooves, mottled skin, the white ring in their eyes, the coat doesn't make it an appaloosa.
My paint horse is registered with the paint horse association under the name Red Mans Rainbow and his only marking is a white star. He doesn't have to be extravagantly marked to be a paint, it's his genealogy that makes him a paint.
I don't want to come off as rude but make sure you study the topic.
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Aug 12, 2010
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ImaCoolCowgirl
Sarabi- I agree with you its on the inside...MY Quarter horse has striped hooves, mottled skin and some spots does that make him a Appaloosa? or a Quarter horse? or Both? He IS registered with the AQHA.
Your Paint horse would be registered as a breeding stock paint because of his lack of coloring. Some where in his genealogy he would have to have Quarter horse or Thoroughbred in him for his ancestors to be registered with the American Paint Horse Association.
And I have studied the topic.
Snowen- Just the fact that a Quarter horse with paint coloring couldn't be registered doesn't make him any less a quarter horse, does it?
Sarabi- I agree with you its on the inside...MY Quarter horse has striped hooves, mottled skin and some spots does that make him a Appaloosa? or a Quarter horse? or Both? He IS registered with the AQHA.
Your Paint horse would be registered as a breeding stock paint because of his lack of coloring. Some where in his genealogy he would have to have Quarter horse or Thoroughbred in him for his ancestors to be registered with the American Paint Horse Association.
And I have studied the topic.
Snowen- Just the fact that a Quarter horse with paint coloring couldn't be registered doesn't make him any less a quarter horse, does it?
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Aug 13, 2010
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Fallen x Moon
Paints and Appaloosas are their own breed.
There are tons of Paint horses out there with a solid color (breeding stock paints), so they're classified by breed / genealogy and not solely by marking. Likewise, just because a horse has tovero, overo, sabino, tobiano, or rabicano, it does not automatically make them a Paint horse. Just like if a horse has striped hooves and / or spots it doesn't automatically make them an Appaloosa.
Paints and Appaloosas are their own breed.
There are tons of Paint horses out there with a solid color (breeding stock paints), so they're classified by breed / genealogy and not solely by marking. Likewise, just because a horse has tovero, overo, sabino, tobiano, or rabicano, it does not automatically make them a Paint horse. Just like if a horse has striped hooves and / or spots it doesn't automatically make them an Appaloosa.
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Aug 13, 2010
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ImaCoolCowgirl
So what makes a paint a paint? And what makes an appaloosa and appaloosa? Everyone keeps saying genealogy...but what is in the genes that makes them a paint? an Appaloosa?
So what makes a paint a paint? And what makes an appaloosa and appaloosa? Everyone keeps saying genealogy...but what is in the genes that makes them a paint? an Appaloosa?
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Aug 13, 2010
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MissP
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An appaloosa isn't just a colour breed, as many people think. The " ApHC" which is an american organization but has affiliates all around the world, the will only accept a horse of breeding potential ( non gelded/ sterilized ) if atleast one of there parents are already registered. They can also be registered if they don't show any of the appaloosa markings, but have limitations on what classes they can enter. However they can upgrade there registration by a DNA test proving that they do have appaloosa blood lines. If they were primarily a colour breed this wouldn't be an option.
An appaloosa isn't just a colour breed, as many people think. The " ApHC" which is an american organization but has affiliates all around the world, the will only accept a horse of breeding potential ( non gelded/ sterilized ) if atleast one of there parents are already registered. They can also be registered if they don't show any of the appaloosa markings, but have limitations on what classes they can enter. However they can upgrade there registration by a DNA test proving that they do have appaloosa blood lines. If they were primarily a colour breed this wouldn't be an option.
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Aug 13, 2010
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Sylly
The palomino gelding I am training, is registered with the PHBA and AQHA.
The palomino gelding I am training, is registered with the PHBA and AQHA.
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Aug 13, 2010
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Sylly
The palomino gelding I am training, is registered with the PHBA and AQHA.
The palomino gelding I am training, is registered with the PHBA and AQHA.
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Aug 13, 2010
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SyrobeLover
A lighter colored horse or a horse with markings on their legs may show slight vertical stripes... so your horse may or may not have appaloosa in him, but striped hooves are commonly found in appys to.
Mottled skin can be found on horses who show roan coats, so if your horse is roan or has roan in his genes his skin can be mottled and he can still be registered with the AQHA. :)
And no a solid paint doesn't have to be registered as breeding stock but most breeding stock is solid colored. He is a paint even if he isn't colored.
A lighter colored horse or a horse with markings on their legs may show slight vertical stripes... so your horse may or may not have appaloosa in him, but striped hooves are commonly found in appys to.
Mottled skin can be found on horses who show roan coats, so if your horse is roan or has roan in his genes his skin can be mottled and he can still be registered with the AQHA. :)
And no a solid paint doesn't have to be registered as breeding stock but most breeding stock is solid colored. He is a paint even if he isn't colored.
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